P=have O=don’t have it
Hungary is a landlocked country in the Carpathian Basin in Central Europe,
bordered by Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, Croatia, and Slovenia.
Scott: #842PP,
#843P
Issued: 19.3.1949
30th Anniversary of
Inside #842: Hungary #198P
Karl Marx (1818-1883), writer of
"Das Kapital" from which both Socialists and Communists obtain their
political beliefs.
Inside #843: Hungary #199P
Alexander (Sandor) Petofi (1823-1849), writer of
lyrics, embraced the cause of the Hungarian revolutionists in 1848; was
aide-de-camp to General Bern and distinguished himself in the battle of Deva
anEzasz-Sebes; statue to his memory in Budapest.
Scott: #870P
Issued: 12.3.1950
20th Anniversary, Hungarian Philatelic
Museum
Inside #870:
Scott: #C68P
Issued: 12.3.1950
20th Anniversary, Hungarian Philatelic
Museum
Inside #C68:
Inside #C68: Hungary Type A9 or A13P?
Inside #C68: Romania #1O
Inside
#C68: Tuscany Type A1O
Inside #C68:
Inside #C68:
Inside #C68:
Inside #C68: G.B. Type A1
Inside #C68: Other stamps TBI
Scott: #973P,
#B207-8P,
#C95O, #CB13P,
#CB14O
Issued: 12.9.1951 / 6.10.1951
80th Anniversary, Hungarian Stamps
Inside #973, #CB13-4, #B207-8, #C95: Hungary
#2O
See: ISSUES OF THE MONARCHY
http://www.hungarianphilately.org/intro_stamps/Intro_Hungarian_Stamps.htm
Lou Guadagno wrote: Here are
scans for two very rare SOS - the Hungary #C95 rose-lilac perf and inperf
s/s - only 1060 sets were given out to officials and exhibitors at the 1951
80th Anniversary of Hungary Stamps Exhibition. Scott notes 1200 were issued,
but Michel and a specialized Hungarian catalog both give the lower figure; the
balance of the special printing not distributed was destroyed after the
exhibition. These sheets had franking value, and in addition to a mint set, I
also have both sheets on registered, flown and back stamped first day covers in
my collection. I was told that possibly only two or three sets on cover
might exist, but in the 40+ years I have owned them, I have never seen or heard
of another set of covers being offered.
Lou Guadagno wrote:
When is a first day cover not a first day cover?
When the Hungarian post
decided to issue the three stamps (Sc #973, #B207-8)
and souvenir sheets (Sc #C95.CB13-14) issued for the
80th Anniversary of the First Hungarian Stamp as a set with a First Day cancel
of October 6, 1951, ignoring the fact that one stamp(Sc
# 973) and s/s (Sc # C95) had previously been issued
on September 12, 1951.
I have the full set on four
flown, registered and back stamped covers and a # 973 single on cover-- all with
the October 6 date and the diamond shaped four language
first day imprint. The last I bought--with a very poor scan, described as a fdc with no date given--and
I expected the 9/12 cancel. When I got the 10/6 cover, I advised it wasn't the first day and wanted a refund; the dealer
refused to do so, claiming the cover said "First Day"--so lesson
learned: be sure of what you are buying.
The earlier date fdcs are rare; I've never seen an offer for the #C95 s/s,
but did eventually find two different 9/12 fdcs
for # 973. Both were mailed to NYC-- a registered cacheted
cover has the single 60f stamp on the face, and 2.40fo additional postage on
the reverse, the airmail cover has five 60f stamps, which I really like--even tho it is pencil addressed. This cover is over-rated
for ordinary airmail, and since it has the same 3.00fo total postage
as the other cover, I like to assume it was supposed to have been sent
registered, and wasn't.
Hungary #973 wrong FDC 6.10.51
Hungary 973 registered 12.9.51 FDC
Hungary 973 12.9.51 airmail FDC
Scott: #CB15-6O
Issued: 12.10.1952
Stamp Week
Inside #CB15-6: Stamp Collecting
Scott: #B209PP,
#B210P
Issued: 1.11.1953
Stamp Day
Inside #B209-10: Stamp on Envelope
Scott: #J210-5P,#J216O,
#J217P,#J218O,#J219P,#J220O,
#J221-6P,
#J227O, #J227aO
Issued: 0.8.1953
50th Anniversary, Hungarian Postage
Dues
Inside #J210-27:
Lou wrote:
This is a unique issue as it is both commemorative and postage due stamps.
While all 28 stamps in this set are "stamps on stamps" design-wise,
there are 5 values that actually existed in the
original 1903 issue, so they are "Stamps on Stamps" and should be
shown separately as they are all modified: smaller numeral of value:
1953 |
1903 |
|
|
Hungary
#J211 |
Hungary
#J4 |
|
|
Hungary
#J213 |
Hungary
#J5 |
|
|
Hungary
#J214 |
Hungary
#J6 |
|
|
Hungary
#J217 |
Hungary
#J7 |
|
|
Hungary
#J222 |
Hungary
#J8 |
A note from Lou: I did these IDs soon after I got the set late 60s, early 70s-- and offered them for the 1992 handbook and the 2000 revised checklist, but they were passed on as "unnecessary detail". I didn't agree then, and I would like to see them finally entered on the sites.
Zoltán Komlóssy respond: You raised an interesting test problem. The reasoning is particularly precise and well developed, and I almost completely agree with the conclusions. Here it is necessary to take into account who exactly means what by the term "stamp on stamp". The first problem, as I see it, is that the 1953 stamps don't exactly show the 1903 stamps (see the denominations, which are in a completely different font!). For this reason, I only classify them as "almost" SOS. The second problem is with the "Forint" denomination among the 1953 stamps, because among the 1903 stamps there was only a "fillér" value! The representation is not precise. But these are just my thoughts. It is up to everyone in their own collection to decide which stamp they qualify as SOS!
Michael Merritt: Thanks for your
contributions. I wonder…do either of you care to comment on the difference between
a “reissue” and a “stamp on stamp”?
For example, France has a long
and expensive tradition of issuing stamps that are marginally distinct from the
original engraved stamps. They, like Stampjira,
seem intent solely on hoovering money out of my pocket, certainly not on
producing pre-paid postage to carry mail to destinations. I have used
Lou’s characterization that these are “reissues” rather than SoS to excuse my
forbearance. What distinguishes them from these Hungarian examples?
Scott: #1183-8P
Issued: 9.3.1958
Publicize the Value of Savings and
Insurance
Inside #1185: Savings Stamp
Scott: #C186aP(#C185P,
#C186P)
Issued: 25.10.1958
National Stamp Exhibition
Inside #C185: Pseudo Stamp
Scott: #1261aPP
Issued: 25.9.1959
National Stamp Exhibition
Inside #1261: Stamp on Envelope
Inside #1261a (On Tab): Hungary #198P
Karl Marx. 1818-1883, writer of
"Das Kapital" from which both Socialists and Communists obtain their
political beliefs.
Inside #1261a (On Tab): Hungary #199P
Alexander (Sandor) Petofi. 1823-1849, writer of
lyrics, embraced the cause of the Hungarian revolutionists in 1848; was
aide-de-camp to General Bern and distinguished himself in the battle of Deva
anEzasz-Sebes; statue to his memory in
Inside #1261a (On Tab): Hungary #202P
Friedrich Engles, 1820-
Inside #1261a (On Tab):
Scott: #1263PP
Issued: 4.10.1959
International Letter Writing Week
Inside #1263: Stamp on Envelope
Scott: #1337aP
Issued: 15.10.1960
National Stamp Exhibition
Inside #1337a: Pseudo Stamp on Tab
Scott: #B228aPP
Scott: #B225O,
#B226O, #B227P,
#B228O
Issued: 22.9.1962
35th Stamp Day and 10th Anniversary, Hungarian
Philatelic Federation
Inside #B225:
Inside #B226: Hungary #201P
Gyorgy Dozsa, born in the 16th
Century, raised an army from the peasants, attacked Istvan Bathory, was burned
to death on an iron throne with a fiery crown on his head.
Inside #B227:
Inside #B228:
Scott: #B228bO
Scott: #1523PP,
#1528PP
Issued: 0.0.1963
Definitive
Inside #1523: Stamp on Parcel
Inside #1528: Stamp on Envelope
Scott: #C236-47PPP
Issued: 9.5.1963
Socialist Communication Ministers
Conference
Inside #C236:
Albania #623P
Inside #C237: Bulgaria #C77P
Inside #C238:
Czechoslovakia #1108P
Inside #C239:
China (PR) #380P
Inside #C240:
(thanks to
Komlóssy Zoltán for the scan)
Inside #C241:
(thanks to
Komlóssy Zoltán for the scan)
Inside #C242:
Inside #C243:
Inside #C244: Germany-DDR #580P
Inside #C245:
Inside
#C246:
Inside #C247:
(thanks to
Komlóssy Zoltán for the scan)
Scott: #1681PP
Issued: 4.6.1965
WIPA, 1965
Inside #1681:
Scott: #B254-7PPP
Issued: 30.10.1965
38th Stamp day
Inside #B254: Hungary #909P
Inside #B255:
Inside #B256:
Inside #B257:
Scott: #B257aP
Scott: #B257bP
Scott: #2004P
Issued: 1.10.1969
Centenary of Hungarian Postal Cards
Inside #2004: Austro-Hungarian Postal
Card (Hungary Michel #P1)
Thanks to Lou Guadagno
Scott: #C303P
Issued: 0.3.1970
Transportation
Inside #C303: Stamp on Envelope
Scott: #2087P
Issued: 11.9.1971
Centenary of Stamp Printing in
Inside #2087 (On Tab):
Read all about newspaper stamps
http://www.linns.com/howto/refresher/newspaperstamps_20030915/refreshercourse.aspx
Inside #2087 (On Tab):
Scott: #B289-92P
Issued: 4.9.1971
Centenary of Hungarian Stamps,
Inside #B290: Hungary #199P
Inside #B291:
Inside #B292:
Inside #B289:
Scott: #B293PP
Inside #B293:
Inside #B293:
Inside #B293:
Inside #B293:
Scott: #B294-7P
Issued: 27.5.1972
9th Congress of National Federation of
Hungarian philatelists
Inside #B296:
S/S issued by Philatelia Hungarica for
Budapest 71'P
100th Anniversary, Hungarian
Stamps
Inside S/S:
Thanks to Lloyd Gilbert
Scott: #2202P
Issued: 0.11.1972
Definitive Coil stamps
Inside #2202: Stamp on Parcel
Scott: #B300-1P
Issued: 27.10.1972
Reopening of the Post and Philatelic
Museums,
Inside #B300: Pseudo Stamp
Inside #B301:
Inside #B301:
Inside #B301:
Inside #B301:
Scott: #2220O
TabP
Issued: 9.5.1973
Philatelic Exhibition of Military Stamp
Collectors
Inside #2220: Pseudo Stamp on Tab
Scott: #2221-8PP
Issued: 11.5.1973
IBRA '73 / POLSKA '73
Inside #2221:
Inside
#2222:
Inside #2223:
Inside #2224:
Inside #2225-8:
Scott: #C345P
Inside #C345:
Scott: #2281PP
Issued: 11.5.1974
Centenary of the First Issue Inscribed
"Magyar Posta"
Inside #2281:
Inside #2281: Hungary #14P
Inside #2281:
Inside #2281: Hungary #16P
Scott: #2288P
Issued: 7.6.1974
INTERNABA 1974
Inside #2288:
Scott: #2310P
Issued: 21.9.1974
STOCKHOLMIA '74
Inside
#2310:
Scott: #2366P
Issued: 8.5.1974
Socfilex '75
Inside #2366: Pseudo Stamp on Tab
Scott: #CB33aP
Issued: 19.10.1974
AEROPHILA
Inside #CB32:
Inside #CB32:
Inside #CB32:
(Thanks to Kathy Sulzner)
Inside #CB33:
Scott: #CB35aP
Inside #CB34: Hungary #CB24P
Inside #CB35:
Scott: #CB36P
Inside #CB36:
Inside #CB36:
Inside #CB36: Hungary #C305P
Scott: #2367P
Issued: 3.6.1975
ARPHILA '75
Inside
#2367:
Scott: #2367P
Scott: #C363P
Issued: 9.9.1975
30 Years of Stamps
Inside #C363:
Inside #C363: Hungary #1382P?
Inside #C363:
Inside #C363:
Inside #C363:
Scott: #C363AP
Note after #C363:
A similar Souvenir shett with blue margin,
no denomination and no postal validity
was released for the 25th Anniversary of
Filatelica Hungarica
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related:
http://www.hungarianphilately.org/